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Posted byThe internet was a mistake. | 108k GET3 years ago
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Jesse Singal - "It's astounding to me that the anti-harassment activists simply ignore and abet certain toxic cesspools because those cesspools have a "WE IS PRORESSIVES!" sign."

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132 points · 3 years ago

The moral of this story is, if you're at the races and see a horse named "Jesse Singal," don't bet on it, as it is a bit slow.

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Guys I'm putting the odds of self awareness to head first kool aide dive at 1:15. Any takers?

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The internet was a mistake. | 108k GETOriginal Poster71 points · 3 years ago

News at 11: Jesse gets it. But still doesn't get it.

Dem replies though:

so you are saying, "i am privilaged and proud of it, deal with my privilage while i shove it in your face?" Just maing it clear

and

for one day you feel misrepresented and attacked. Try dealing with that your entire life. like trans people do.

Your piece has given more power to the people misrepresenting and harming trans people. Deal with that.

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14 year old Marxist28 points · 3 years ago

Would this be a prime exhibit of cognitive dissonance?

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cognitive dissonance

The coveted Golden Sea Lion Award goes to you my good shitlord. Two patriarchies straight up. 11/10 fedoras. And because I can't spread these links around enough, here's a blast-y from the past-y:

"Gamergate arguments are valid, but fuck Gamergate, amirite guise?" ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Don't worry Jessie. We got it. Dear Shitlord do we ever get it.

Indeed a peach.

It is stunning to witness this kind of cognitive dissonance in the wild. Breathtaking in form. Magnificent in purity. If we had a Master Ball do you think we could catch him? (0_0)??

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11 points · 3 years ago

No. CD is precisely the exact opposite; it's when your brain tries to resolve the contradictions between your beliefs and your actions. People who don't experience CD (as much) have no problem with contradiction. Most people try to resolve the contradiction as fast possible, hopefully by admitting they're wrong, but usually by making up rationalizations as to why they were never wrong and it didn't count.

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9 points · 3 years ago · edited 3 years ago

it's when your brain tries to resolve the contradictions between your beliefs and your actions.

And can't (at least not completely), hence feelings of discomfort, or dissonance.

The cognitive dissonance talk stems from more than this particular twitter happening. One of the best examples would be from his classic Gamergate Should Stop Lying to Journalists - And Itself screed, which paraphrased, adds up to "Gamergate is messy and too complex and I can't be bothered to do the job I'm paid to do in order to cover it."

To quote:

Acknowledge that you do not want SJWs in gaming, that you want games to just be about games. Again: I disagree, but at least then I (and other journalists! you do want coverage, don’t you?) could at least follow what the hell is going on. If your movement requires journalists to carefully parse 8chan chains to understand it, it gets an F- in the PR department. You guys need to man and woman up and talk about what’s really on your mind, or stop whining about “biased” coverage and/or blaming it on nonexistent media conspiracies.

- Jessie Singal

As GG grew, we actually had these conversations, and expanded our Mission Statement to one encompassing core tenants of media transparency and free-speech advocacy beyond ethics in games journalism. The idea being that media content creators (including game devs) should not have to be subject to coercion or chilling effect from political\ideological groups; they should make what they want. This leads us to:

One of the things that makes GG annoying...is the solipsism.

I'm not trying to make a "We were talking about these issues before they were cool" argument. But, well -- GamerGate did not discover that identity politics stretched past reasonableness can be corrosive; GamerGate did not discover that constantly policing people's language for minor infractions is exhausting and counterproductive. So it's a little bit annoying to see all these comments along the lines of, "Oh, well now they see that things have gone too far"

- Jessie Singal

So we make changes along the lines that he qualifies as the appropriate ones to make; no dice, we're solipsistic. We make sound ethical arguments regarding identity politics, political correctness, language policing, and their corrosive effects on producing media; who cares, we weren't the ones who discovered the existence of ethical dilemmas first.

Hence.

All of this contradiction, but he can't stop posting here. Could he actually be doing his job? Is shitlording contagious??

Is there a creeping sensation of "Did I back the wrong ideological horse?" Time will tell.

Agree, or agree to disagree, it's cool. But I don't think I'm alone in thinking that it's making for some incredible study.

edit: links, format

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14 year old Marxist2 points · 3 years ago

Shit, did I get my terms wrong?

Thanks for the correction.

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16 points · 3 years ago

I had to reply to that second guy. People like him are just bullies. Disgusting behaviour.

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Yeah, what a fuckstick.

"Your struggles mean nothing because some people have had it worse than you! Repent!"

level 4

They should create some sort of formal fallacy for that...

level 5

There's an informal one, Fallacy of Relative Privation.

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The internet was a mistake. | 108k GETOriginal Poster7 points · 3 years ago

Yep, it's absurd. It's a completely unfalsifiable claim, used to justify abuse.

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so you are saying, "i am privilaged and proud of it, deal with my privilage while i shove it in your face?" Just maing it clear

privilaged

Jesse Singal

Legendary Salt Land

Jesse Singal comes into play with ten social justice counters on it.

3: Remove a social justice counter from Jesse Singal.

When Jesse Singal has no social justice counters on it, sacrifice it. If you do, put a legendary 20/20 white Patriarchy creature token with flying and indestructible called Privil Lage onto the battlefield.

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I would argue that SJ is red-white. Totally emotional and volatile, but still trying to impose order on everything else.

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Cuck-Wing Death Squad (imgur.com/B8fBqhv.jpg)1 point · 3 years ago

I would argue that SJ is red-white.

The most accurate is probably white-black, completely devoted to forcing total obedience to "the greater good" while being unstable, backstabbing psychos who know on some level what they're doing is wrong but just don't care.

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I can see that. Black is essentially "get what you want, no matter what methods you you or the cost you pay."

Plus, that was the color of that cult guild in Ravnica.

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Taps Island, cast unsummon.

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3 points · 3 years ago

trans people

Well there was his first mistake.

Any discussion on trans people is a fucking hornet's nest waiting to be poked. If you're not trans, really, don't get involved. Shit is a warzone.

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Cuck-Wing Death Squad (imgur.com/B8fBqhv.jpg)2 points · 3 years ago

If you're not trans, really, don't get involved. Shit is a warzone.

If you are not trans, don't get involved because SJWs will lynch you for being "transphobic".

If you are trans, don't get involved because SJWs will lynch you for being "truscum".

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Proper spelling is a tool of oppression.

level 1

He was ok with it until it attacked him, and will be ok with it again the second it stops.

level 2

I doubt it. He has his flaws, definitely, but if he was that kind of person, you would have seen him grovel and apologize, rather than stand up to these mental patients.

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He's playing the bad minority card which he refused to accept with GG.

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