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Official Discussion - Alita: Battle Angel [SPOILERS]

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Summary:

Several centuries in the future, the abandoned Alita is found in the scrapyard of Iron City by Ido, a compassionate cyber-doctor who takes the unconscious cyborg Alita to his clinic. When Alita awakens she has no memory of who she is, nor does she have any recognition of the world she finds herself in. Ido tries to shield Alita from her mysterious past while her street-smart new friend, Hugo, offers instead to help trigger her memories. A growing affection develops between the two until deadly forces come after Alita and threaten her newfound relationships.

Director:

Robert Rodriguez

Writers:

screenplay by James Cameron, Laeta Kalogridis, Robert Rodriguez

based on the graphic novel series "Gunnm" by Yukito Kishiro

Cast:

  • Rosa Salazar as Alita

  • Christoph Waltz as Dr. Dyson Ido

  • Jennifer Connelly as Chiren

  • Mahershala Ali as Vector

  • Edward Norton as Nova

  • Ed Skrein as Zapan

  • Jackie Earle Haley as Grewishka

  • Keean Johnson as Hugo

  • Michelle Rodriguez as Gelda

  • Eiza González as Nyssiana

  • Lana Condor as Koyomi

  • Jorge Lendeborg Jr. as Tanji

  • Idara Victor as Nurse Gerhad

  • Marko Zaror as Ajakutty

  • Elle LaMont as Screwhead

  • Leonard Wu as Kinuba

  • Casper Van Dien as Amok


Rotten Tomatoes: 59%

Metacritic: 53/100

After Credits Scene? No


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level 1

For an ending that sets up the sequel, I actually liked what they did. The simple image of her pointing her sword at Nova while the crowd was cheering her name was awesome to me. I came in to this movie with absolutely no expectations, and was blown away by the visuals and the sound. Definitely a great choice if you’re looking for some dumb fun.

level 1
3 points · 1 hour ago · edited 40 minutes ago

Everyone is mentioning how good the CGI was, but for me, the more important part was how emotional this movie made me. It's been so long since I've had feels like this. And how it causes me to relate to the protagonist and makes me want to be a better person.

level 1

The one thing that would have made the movie 100X better:

An after credit scene where the cowboy cyborg with the dogs walks into Doc's cybershop to find Alita sitting at the kitchen. She asks what brings you by and he says and old friend wanted to say hello.

In walks a certain little doggie with a robot body. Alita picks him up and hugs him.

10/10 perfect movie.

level 1
3 points · 2 hours ago

I just got out of seeing it a few hours ago and I LOVED it. Never read any of the source material but I totally want to now. But it certainly wasn't for everyone. It was very anime-esque and video game-esque at times. I thought the movie was okay until she follows Dr. Ido when he's out hunting criminals. When JEH's character in his big goofy cloak and the other two pop out, I felt like "Oh wow, this really feels like an anime in live action".

At that point, I was super in. I also loved when JEH's character jumps down below the bar and creates a huge hole in the ground for Alita to follow. That in particular was so video game-esque. That whole sequence was awesome! The fight scenes throughout were excellent and Rosa Salazar, Waltz and JEH in particular were all great. The only thing that I thought seemed rushed was her romance with Hugo. I don't go to the movies much besides Superhero stuff and Star Wars but this was a great time.

level 1
3 points · 3 hours ago

I loved the movie. Seen it twice and think Rosa Salasar for an incredible job with the notion capture. She was definitely all in

level 2

You’re in the majority! barely^

level 1

Is it bad is it good... I really have mix feelings for the movie as an anime fan and a movie goer.

The good thing about it was faithful to source material

The bad thing about it was no structure for the characters I didn't have feelings for any of them literally robots.. Now I'm just comparing to source I loved the manga and would watch the ova just to see what they took from...

But, It was a good movie to enjoy and to see some really cool effects and the future of the industry for the chance to anime adaptation on the big screen

And one thing to add that i really hated was ido's role was just very low i get it you want to foucs on alita but give a bit of love to ido come on..

What would I give it as anime fan 5.5/10

As a movie goer 7/10

level 1

I see a lot of comments online on "ugh, the ending sucked because it was just an obvious sequel setup" but I honestly really liked it? Like, yeah, it was an obvious sequel set-up, but because it showed Alita proactively working towards getting closer to being sent to Zalem as this inevitable showdown thing, it didn't feel so cheap. It felt like open-ended closure, if that makes sense. Even if we the audience don't see it because part 2 doesn't get made, it's still going to happen in the story. I dunno, it worked really nicely for me.

Otherwise, I really dug it. Script was kind of clunky in places and the big eyes are still a baffling style choice to me, but the action was incredible and I loved the world. For being full of robots, it felt very alive.

level 1
2 points · 3 hours ago

I thought the movie on the whole was enjoyable. Probably on par with Ready Player One, maybe a little below that movie. Like some others I didn't really like Hugo. I have no idea how long the books are but it felt like we were trying to cram a lot into a short time period. I am curious about the universe, but feel like the whole thing is probably aimed at a bit younger audience.

level 1

Definitely buying this on blu-ray and adding it to my collection. I hope it has an awesome case cover and cool bonus features. Maybe even some deleted scenes?

level 1

I just saw it over the weekend and walked away pretty happy when it was over. Saw the original when it first came out, back when I was 15. I was pretty happy with how well they stuck with the source material. The special FX was really nice and I also enjoyed the art style.

7.5/10!

level 1

Overall pretty underwhelmed by the story & some of the casting choices/performances.

But it looked and sounded incredible. All of it.

It had pacing problems. Dragged at parts.

I give it a 7.5/10

level 2

AMC Dolby was nuts. During the motorball scene I was literally shaking.

level 1
5 points · 5 hours ago · edited 4 hours ago

I thought it was pretty decent to be honest. I have not read the source material so I can't compare it to that but for me the visuals were ace and certainly carried its own style (Ido and that giant hammer was just absolute sillyness though). Score & sound design was cool.

But experiencing the story was like being tied down to a chair while someone shoves a 35ft sub down your throat. Too much, too quickly. I could physically see the pages of the manga flying by at a breakneck pace as we hopped from one set piece to the other. I just couldn't digest things long enough before the next scene came in and crawled in my mouth. Also Hugo's acting was crap, I constantly wanted him to die and didn't feel any chemistry when he was on screen with Alita. Thankfully my patience was rewarded when he was violently ripped to shreds then (supposedly) fell to his death...let me guess, he comes back right? The ending also fell flat, seems like there is still plenty of story to be told. Lots of questions, no answers.

7 or 8 /10 for me.

level 2

Gotta work on your deep throat.

level 1

The dialogue was so ridiculously bad. It fulfilled every movie stereotype I can think of and it was just so clunky. That being said, everything else was very cool.

level 2

Lol yeah but it somehow worked out in this movie imo. I feel like when you pair cheesy one liners with epic action and stunning visuals it all comes together pretty well.

“Come over here little flea”

“I’ll wear you like a pendant while you beg for mercy!

Then stabs in the eye and says “fuck your mercy”

I live for crazy shit like that. I’ll give you my heart too evanrach.

level 1

I actually really enjoyed the film. I am certain this is going to be one of those films that half the critics pan but most of the audience actually enjoys it.

Seriously, this was a really fun movie. I really liked the Alita character and while at times uncanny, there was some absolutely gorgeous and phenomenal CGI work done here, especially with the live-action characters over the cyborg bodies. Wow, seriously, just wow. So good.

All I can say is this, and it is my only real critique, but the main love interest boy was not the best casting choice. Maybe he is a good actor, I don't know, but the dialogue of his character was often pretty meh and the love interest felt a bit rushed.

But damn, this seriously is a FUN and cool movie. It hits all the right notes for me and I honestly am looking forward to owning this movie and watching it a 2nd time.

I definitely recommend it.

level 1

I feel like if I watched that movie either drunk or high I would have enjoyed it A LOT more. It was a ton of fun, but I kept mentally keeping track of all the plots, when the movie doesn't really warrant that much thought.

It sucks they set it up for a sequel because I cannot see that happening, and I'm really curious what's Nova's deal.

I'd really recommend it for a popcorn flick.

level 2

Ed Norton playing an immortal villain in a pure science fiction / fantasy universe? Sign me up fam.

level 1
2 points · 8 hours ago

I feel like the movie should have just gone for the straight R rating so that they could capture more of the gore that was present in the source material while also being able to make the movie feel much more mature.

level 2

More money if its open to more audiences

level 3

Yeah I mean the movie is targeting YA audience. The protagonist is a 15 year old girl (sort of) and love interest is a 17 year old hunk. They obviously want the high schoolers to come out and watch this.

level 1

I actually thought the movie was pretty fun despite some really stilted and awkward dialogue scenes. The 3D was great and never felt like a hindrance during the spectacle. I just so hated the ending. I felt like the last 10-15 minutes were rushed and felt insulted that it led to a cliffhanger ending. For such a long movie it felt like nothing really got resolved, like it was part one if a two part story. I really hope we get a proper sequel that finishes the story otherwise I feel like the movie will be worthless despite how enjoyable I found most of it.

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